Anyone But Bush NOTD – 4/30/2004
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By etrigan - Last updated: Friday, April 30, 2004 - Save & Share - 6 Comments

Today’s reason: A history lesson in the end to major combat.

One year ago today Bush declared “an end to major combat”:http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/04/30/speech.anniversary/index.html operations in Iraq. Looking for a quick and easy win, he tried to force an idea of success on the people of America with showy grandstanding. Instead we’re still fighting this war every day. Misrepresenting the battle ahead showed this administration’s inability to maintain an honest dialog with the people of this country.

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6 Responses to “Anyone But Bush NOTD – 4/30/2004”

Comment from Reeder
Time April 30, 2004 at 3:53 pm

>”Misrepresenting the battle ahead showed this administration’s inability to maintain an honest dialog with the people of this country”

…or maybe it was harder than the experts thought.

…but you’re probably right. He’s just a big fat grandstanding liar. On a more important note – did the pizzas make it from Shreveport?

Comment from Bubba Ho-Tep
Time April 30, 2004 at 6:38 pm

You ask me – the only way to win this war is to torture a few more of those ‘raqi boys just dont get caught the next time.

Hang ’em high!!!!!!

Yeeeehaw!

Comment from etrigan
Time May 1, 2004 at 12:17 pm

Well, yeah, because that’ll cause everyone to fall in line out of fear. It worked for Saddam so it should work for us, too. We should run their country     just     like     Saddam did…

rick- I don’t understand what you consider the “experts” to be — Rush and Hannity? Rove and Cheney? a bunch of men who never went to war and apparently don’t know much about the Middle East? — but the “experts really did predict”:http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/timeline.jsp?timeline=complete_timeline_of_the_2003_invasion_of_iraq&iraq_themes=predictions this outcome … that is if you consider Philip Gordon (of the Brooking Institution), Wesley Clark, Joseph P. Hoar, John M. Shalikashvili, Tony McPeak, Gen James L Jones, Norman Schwarzkopf, Anthony Zinni, Henry H. Shelton, Thomas G. McInerney, and Phebe Marr (a professor from the National Defense University) to be experts. Judging this administration on merits — whether or not they made the right decisions — the war on Iraq has been disappointing.

Comment from Jank
Time May 3, 2004 at 12:35 am

> the war on Iraq has been disappointing.

From the perspective of a Baathist, perhaps.

25 million people are still hugely closer to real freedom than they were a year ago. P.I.M.P Mumhwar in Libya made strides back into the community of nations. Israel is considering effective actions that doesn’t involve the IDF killing thousands of Palestineans.

No, it hasn’t been a cakewalk. But, it’s still 50 years from being another Vietnam, on both the US and Iraqi sides.

Comment from etrigan
Time May 3, 2004 at 9:00 am

> 25 million people

I’m getting a little tired of that number from you conservatives. Subtract the number of people in Fallujah and that other town, and all the people whose lives are zero sum from SH’s reign and all the people who want a strict Islamic state and its WAY less the 25M.

(Listen to the Dem’s radio address to hear some of what I mean by dissapointing.) Poorly planned in re: equipment and manpower, more deaths than neccesary, insulting treatment of prisoners, inability to garner the support of the native population, ridiculously poor budgeting and an insultingly optimistic view that the Iraqi government will magically coalesce in June. How’s that for a start on disappointing?

We are currently in position to keep our head above water, but it is precarious. We need to be honest with our soldiers and the people of Iraq that the U.S. military will be rotated in and out of Iraq (and Afghanistan) for the next 10 years. We need to make sure they have the latest in suburban and urban fighting gear. We need an Arabic PR campaign that educates about the danger of mixing religion and violence (and the fact that the modern world will not tolerate it.) We need to stop providing what is only sufficient for the goals that should be achieved.

Comment from Jank
Time May 3, 2004 at 9:53 am

> that the U.S. military will be rotated in and out of Iraq (and Afghanistan) for the next 10 years.

On about the same time-table we roatated out of Germany and Japan?

> We need an Arabic PR campaign that educates about the danger of mixing religion and violence (and the fact that the modern world will not tolerate it.)

Amen to that, brother.

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